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"Stuart Wilson"
posts: 810
Pendle & Pennine group
joined on Wed 9th Nov 2011
 posted Mon 10th Jul 2017

The starter on my Sprint engined TR is gradually getting worse. When you turn the key more often than not the starter just spins but doesn't engage, it has always done it since I got the car. It was just occasionally and I could live with it but now it is happening more and more and taking longer to engage.

I'm going to change the starter, wondering is there any advantage to fitting a high torque version as they are a little dearer but not stupid amounts more. I'm not sure if mine has the heat shield fitted as is shown on the TR starter, is this something that helps prolong the starter?

1982 TR7 FHC "Sprint"
Moss Roadster - upgrade now in progress
1985 Yamaha FZ750
1997 Vauxhall Calibra 2.5 V6 in need of a little TLC -- looking to sell it
2000 Porsche Boxster S -- mid life crisis?  
2004 Skoda Superb 1.9TDI 130 Auto
Vauxhall Nova 1.6 16v stage rally car - NOW SOLD
1988 Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit NOW SOLD
You can never have too many toys!!
2012 RBRR  TR7 "Sprint" car 16 (completed)
2014 RBRR Moss Roadster car 72 (retired)
2016 RBRR Moss Roadster TR7 "Sprint" car 123 (completed)
2018 RBRR Moss or TR7 --- choices
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"poppyman"
posts: 334
Cheshire & Staffs group
joined on Sat 3rd Dec 2016
 posted Mon 10th Jul 2017 reply 1 of 7

before buying a new one?
have you tried cleaning the old one? including the terminals?
they can get full of clutch dust and cause this problem.
just use brake cleaner and when all is spotless use wd40 or like and then wipe any residue off as it will attract more dust.
i think you will find it will cure it
tony.

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"Stuart Wilson"
posts: 810
Pendle & Pennine group
joined on Wed 9th Nov 2011
 posted Mon 10th Jul 2017 reply 2 of 7

Had thought about cleaning it, but if it doesn't work means taking it back off again. Prefer remove/fit once, especially as will probably be doing it on my back outside.

1982 TR7 FHC "Sprint"
Moss Roadster - upgrade now in progress
1985 Yamaha FZ750
1997 Vauxhall Calibra 2.5 V6 in need of a little TLC -- looking to sell it
2000 Porsche Boxster S -- mid life crisis?  
2004 Skoda Superb 1.9TDI 130 Auto
Vauxhall Nova 1.6 16v stage rally car - NOW SOLD
1988 Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit NOW SOLD
You can never have too many toys!!
2012 RBRR  TR7 "Sprint" car 16 (completed)
2014 RBRR Moss Roadster car 72 (retired)
2016 RBRR Moss Roadster TR7 "Sprint" car 123 (completed)
2018 RBRR Moss or TR7 --- choices
Tags - TR7 TR7 Sprint TR7 V8 TR8
"Beans"
posts: 5655
Netherlands
joined on Sun 5th Mar 2006
 posted Mon 10th Jul 2017 reply 3 of 7

Removal en refitting of the starter motor isn't that difficult. Should be a 15 minute job on the drive  
Just make sure you have all the correct tools for the job before you start.
(think of very long socket extension depending on exhaust manifold)
Also jacking up the car to access the lower of the three mounting bolts is recommended.
Removal and refitting the (original starter should be possible without removing the exhaust manifold.

But if you insist on buying a new one I'd say go for a modern hi-torque one.
As they are much smaller they are easier to fit.

1976 TR7 FHC (currently undergoing some TLC ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (a.k.a. Kermette, my first car bought in 1988 )
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined, a.k.a. 't Kreng)
http://tr7beans.blogspot.com/
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"Stuart Wilson"
posts: 810
Pendle & Pennine group
joined on Wed 9th Nov 2011
 posted Mon 10th Jul 2017 reply 4 of 7

Theo have you noticed a difference with fitting a HiTorque version?

I'm liking the size of them compared to the original one

1982 TR7 FHC "Sprint"
Moss Roadster - upgrade now in progress
1985 Yamaha FZ750
1997 Vauxhall Calibra 2.5 V6 in need of a little TLC -- looking to sell it
2000 Porsche Boxster S -- mid life crisis?  
2004 Skoda Superb 1.9TDI 130 Auto
Vauxhall Nova 1.6 16v stage rally car - NOW SOLD
1988 Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit NOW SOLD
You can never have too many toys!!
2012 RBRR  TR7 "Sprint" car 16 (completed)
2014 RBRR Moss Roadster car 72 (retired)
2016 RBRR Moss Roadster TR7 "Sprint" car 123 (completed)
2018 RBRR Moss or TR7 --- choices
Tags - TR7 TR7 Sprint TR7 V8 TR8
"Stuart Wilson"
posts: 810
Pendle & Pennine group
joined on Wed 9th Nov 2011
 posted Tue 11th Jul 2017 reply 5 of 7

Would you have a part number for the hi- torque starter

Rimmers are quoting same part number for the TR7 and the Sprint, yet WOSP who make Hi-Torque starters are quoting different numbers.

1982 TR7 FHC "Sprint"
Moss Roadster - upgrade now in progress
1985 Yamaha FZ750
1997 Vauxhall Calibra 2.5 V6 in need of a little TLC -- looking to sell it
2000 Porsche Boxster S -- mid life crisis?  
2004 Skoda Superb 1.9TDI 130 Auto
Vauxhall Nova 1.6 16v stage rally car - NOW SOLD
1988 Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit NOW SOLD
You can never have too many toys!!
2012 RBRR  TR7 "Sprint" car 16 (completed)
2014 RBRR Moss Roadster car 72 (retired)
2016 RBRR Moss Roadster TR7 "Sprint" car 123 (completed)
2018 RBRR Moss or TR7 --- choices
Tags - TR7 TR7 Sprint TR7 V8 TR8
"Beans"
posts: 5655
Netherlands
joined on Sun 5th Mar 2006
 posted Tue 11th Jul 2017 reply 6 of 7

Depends which engine back plate you use. I have a TR7 back plate on my Sprint engine. So a TR7 starter.

And as you can see with this starter motor one mounting bolt is deleted.
The redundant mounting hole came in very handy for tying the starter's cable loom down  

Part number (from Robsport) GEU469U/R


1976 TR7 FHC (currently undergoing some TLC ...)
1980 TR7 DHC (a.k.a. Kermette, my first car bought in 1988 )
1981 TR7 FHC (Sprint engined, a.k.a. 't Kreng)
http://tr7beans.blogspot.com/
Tags - TR7 TR7 Sprint TR7 V8 TR8
"Stuart Wilson"
posts: 810
Pendle & Pennine group
joined on Wed 9th Nov 2011
 posted Fri 29th Sep 2017 reply 7 of 7

Should have said earlier I went for a new Hi Torque starter, what a difference it has made to starting, it really throws the engine over. Best modification I've done to the car

1982 TR7 FHC "Sprint"
Moss Roadster - upgrade now in progress
1985 Yamaha FZ750
1997 Vauxhall Calibra 2.5 V6 in need of a little TLC -- looking to sell it
2000 Porsche Boxster S -- mid life crisis?  
2004 Skoda Superb 1.9TDI 130 Auto
Vauxhall Nova 1.6 16v stage rally car - NOW SOLD
1988 Vauxhall Nova 1.2 merit NOW SOLD
You can never have too many toys!!
2012 RBRR  TR7 "Sprint" car 16 (completed)
2014 RBRR Moss Roadster car 72 (retired)
2016 RBRR Moss Roadster TR7 "Sprint" car 123 (completed)
2018 RBRR Moss or TR7 --- choices
Tags - TR7 TR7 Sprint TR7 V8 TR8


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