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 "sparky_spit"
posts: 3132  Comp Committee MemberEssex group joined on Sat 9th Dec 2006 |
posted Thu 11th Oct 2018
On a Triumph 4cyl engine, sitting upright, I think I can prime the oil pump by taking the pressure relief valve/plunger out and introducing oil through the hole, which leads into the top of the pump? Can someone confirm? I didn't pack the pump with petroleum jelly when assembling it as I'm not convinced it would melt/dissolve enough with cold oil passing through the system as I prime the engine with a drill down the dizzy hole before first start up. I did fill the pump with oil when I fitted it but the engine has been rolled over a few times on its stand during the last few days and I reckon it's all drained out by now. Thanks Location - North Essex
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"WIMPUS"
posts: 4942  Belgiumjoined on Tue 10th Sep 2013 |
posted Fri 12th Oct 2018
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Or... take dizzy out and put on in it via there ? If you take the gear out that drives the oil pump / dizzy you can then make a 'tool' to drive the oil pump with a drill ! So you can get oil everywhere in the engine. Triumph Spitfire 1500 ( 1978 ) / The Fox 19Aug 2018: Done 92.000miles ! |
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"thescrapman"
posts: 9000  Essex groupjoined on Sat 17th Sep 2005 |
posted Fri 12th Oct 2018
reply 2 of 8
I have used the "backfill" technique in the past.
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"sparky_spit"
posts: 3132 Comp Committee MemberEssex group joined on Sat 9th Dec 2006 |
posted Fri 12th Oct 2018
reply 3 of 8
Thanks gents. I know that the over-pressure position of the valve plunger dumps oil straight back into the sump, but it was not easy to see if the bottom passage comes direct from the pump or not without taking it all apart again. Hi Wim - yes, I've used an anti-clockwise spinning screwdriver end in a drill to pressurize the system before and it works well, but not so well initially if there is not at least a some oil in the pump to start with. Once you get some pressure, with cold oil, it certainly puts a surprisingly large load on the drill. The cam chain must groan a bit when that happens in use. As an aside, the oil pump must surely put the most load on the cam's drivetrain, much more than the cam/rockers/springs and distributor combined. Location - North Essex
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"Nick Jones"
posts: 8728  Wessex (Bristol & Bath) groupjoined on Sat 19th Nov 2005 |
posted Fri 12th Oct 2018
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RV hole doesn't dump direct into the sump but back into the pump inlet. I use the electric drill technique myself..... Nick Nick JonesSomerset UK Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017. GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in progress Spitfire MKIV son's project now on the road as a daily driver 2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet. Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea http://www.tengaston.plus.com |
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"Spitfire6"
posts: 1040  Pendle & Pennine groupjoined on Wed 27th Nov 2013 |
posted Saturday 4:28pm
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Quoted from sparky_spit- Me in Burnley, GB Big fat 215/40/16's on the backside. (They fit and minimal camber change). Alloy Golf Mk1 50mm dual row radiator with 20% EG for winter with 2% corrosion inhibitor. Water with corrosion inhibitor in summer (now). Two 40 watt suction toy fans for stationary cooling. 88c thermostat. LED's all round. Mobil one FS 0W40 Oil. 3.27 diff with a LSD by Quaife. TR6 Transmission + J Type. |
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"Spitfire6"
posts: 1040 Pendle & Pennine groupjoined on Wed 27th Nov 2013 |
posted Saturday 4:40pm
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Hi, difficulty in trying to post memories are coming back. Was wanting to say that this website is like 20W50 oil in a car up North. At Christmas. 3 o'clock in the morning. Cheers, Iain.
Me in Burnley, GB Big fat 215/40/16's on the backside. (They fit and minimal camber change). Alloy Golf Mk1 50mm dual row radiator with 20% EG for winter with 2% corrosion inhibitor. Water with corrosion inhibitor in summer (now). Two 40 watt suction toy fans for stationary cooling. 88c thermostat. LED's all round. Mobil one FS 0W40 Oil. 3.27 diff with a LSD by Quaife. TR6 Transmission + J Type. |
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 "Guppy916"
posts: 292 non member |
posted Saturday 5:02pm
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I used the drill to prime my GT6 after the rebuild, yes it loads the drill at least you get oil around the system, refitted dizzy then I still spun it over with the starter and no plugs in just to make sure, and no rocker cover on, quick check on valves, rocker cover on and fire it up, never looked back Hampshire Based Ford Anglia 105E (in the beginning ) |
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"Guppy916"
posts: 292 non member |
posted Saturday 5:07pm
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a quick change of thread, to post a photo the box opens and it tells me it put in "source" and "image list" what do I put in these boxes, I use an iMac pc I really need help with this Ta guys Hampshire Based Ford Anglia 105E (in the beginning ) |
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