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 "65redspit"
posts: 21 North London & Herts group joined on Tue 20th Jan 2015 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
Hi
i am looking for a 2.5pi saloon, preferably a mk1 but mk2 is fine
Would prefer a good condition working car.
If I can't find one I would consider a non runner or project just as long as there is not too much rust involved - willing to do any amount of mechanical necessary, just not bodywork lol
Paul 07879437498 |
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"thescrapman"
posts: 9205 Essex group joined on Sat 17th Sep 2005 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
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Morning Paul I don't reckon anyone will let go of their Mk1s, well not the genuine ones, or at a sensible price! There are some really nice Mk2 come up every now and then, but be warned, a big saloon can hide scary levels of rot. Most of the cars about are known to someone on here, so ask about any you see. Colin Schadenfreude expert and collector of assorted rusty Triumphs on the Essex/Suffolk Border. |
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"65redspit"
posts: 21 North London & Herts group joined on Tue 20th Jan 2015 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
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Hi Colin Thanks for the reply Price tags don't scare me, rot does :o))
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"TedTaylor"
posts: 2541  Wye Dean groupjoined on Fri 2nd Jul 2010 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
reply 3 of 15
An indication of your budget would help - this can then help us suggest what you can get for your money. As Colin has indicated the Mk1 PI is rare and sells at a premium so Mk2 would be more realistic, but even then an idea of your total budget (good working car or project allowing for the costs of the work) would give and idea to us if you are being realistic. So many people expect too much. MUT Mad Uncle Ted! |
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"65redspit"
posts: 21 North London & Herts group joined on Tue 20th Jan 2015 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
reply 4 of 15
Sure, my budget is £25k
So, if it was a mint mk1 2.5pi in a really good set of colours with excellent spec and mechanics I'd pay £25k as it was done and ready Anything that needs work I would calculate back from this, taking into account the money I would have to spend, the amount of time/aggravation and how long it would be before I was driving. That would be gut feeling I guess. This is much more difficult to define as, for instance, I've a spare 2.5pi engine in the shed so if the car needed an engine rebuild I could be driving much sooner than if it needed floors and sills welding in... |
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"TedTaylor"
posts: 2541 Wye Dean groupjoined on Fri 2nd Jul 2010 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
reply 5 of 15
Paul that is a very good budget - should well cover what you want with cash to spare. Too often we have people want a good Pi for a couple of grand and then wonder why they can't get anything - especially if it is a Mk1 Pi they are really looking for! You could even afford that rarest of Pi's a Mk1 estate ..... though that is not your interest which is fair enough. The problem with a Mk1 Pi is as Colin suggested - because of their desirability and rarity most owners are not looking to sell them. In fact if I may say so this budget would also cover a car needing considerable work, just make sure that if having someone else do the work commercially that you get someone who knows the cars so any quotes as to cost of bodywork are realistic. What you would then have in the end is a car that should be near on perfect. Probably a key thing is that before you buy anything that you use colleagues in CT experienced in the Pi saloon to make sure you don't get something with hidden problems. Although in your budget you would be able to afford to get it done properly ...... you don't want spend money unnecessarily. Needless to say Stoneleigh in a few weeks would be a good start! MUT Mad Uncle Ted! |
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"65redspit"
posts: 21 North London & Herts group joined on Tue 20th Jan 2015 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
reply 6 of 15
Ted, thanks for the reassuring words.
I’m guessing the perfect car for me would be an unfinished project; all the panelwork done, painted & ready to reassemble ...
I can then see the chassis and add my touch to the engine and suspension without having to disassemble it all first :0)) lol - seriously, I can’t envisage that coming along though !! |
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"TedTaylor"
posts: 2541 Wye Dean groupjoined on Fri 2nd Jul 2010 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
reply 7 of 15
Yes that would summarise things - only remember that it is a case of availability for any Pi big six. Pity you are not looking for one of the rarest of Triumphs, and arguably of the big sixes, a Mk1 Pi estate! MUT
Mad Uncle Ted! |
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"thescrapman"
posts: 9205 Essex group joined on Sat 17th Sep 2005 |
posted Sun 27th Jan 2019
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Yes you are right Ted, shame he isn't looking for an estate. I had forgotten there was one Mk1 Pi for sale, just an estate not a saloon. Schadenfreude expert and collector of assorted rusty Triumphs on the Essex/Suffolk Border. |
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"timbancroft61"
posts: 10414  Website ModeratorLibrary Manager RBRR organising team member joined on Tue 31st Mar 1998 |
posted Tue 29th Jan 2019
reply 9 of 15
With that amount of money, I would have thought a decent mk1 2000 saloon could be sourced and then modified to mk1 Pi standards. Maybe a good idea to talk to either Dave Harvey or Lee Godfrey, they seem to know where the decent cars are and if any are for sale. Assuming that a decent mk1 can be sourced, the following would give an idea of budget: 2.5 pi Engine: £5K ish Modding the engine you have with solid engineering practices: Reground crank and bearings, camshaft, cam bearings, duplex timing gear, cylinder head, light flywheel, new pistons, balancing crank and rods, exhaust manifold Fuelling: Pi...Say £2,000 or Webers: £1,750.00 J type overdrive (28%) gearbox: £2K max 3.45:1 Diff: £750 Uprated driveshafts £1,250.00 Suspension Front and Rear: Konis, Eibach springs and poly bushes: £2,500.00 Brakes: Stag stuff: £750.00 assuming late mk1 basics Cooling Rad, hoses and electric fan: £500.00 Wheels and Tyres: £1,000.00 (Minilite 7J 15'' and Michelin tyres) So say £7K for a car and £18K (including incidentals) for the above. This based upon owner doing the work. Take it from me, you would have a car at the end that would be extremely useful, able to tackle more or less anything that you throw at it. James Shackford would be the man to speak to about modifying the car, a good source of some of the parts you will need and where to get machining done.
Club Triumph Round Britain Reliability Run: Part of the organising team, and honoured to be associated 1970 TR6 Maroon. Bought May 2018. Since pruchase: Full suspension re-build, new clutch and propshaft plus re-built driveshafts. Goes well. Blimey, lots more done now, gearbox replaced (Canley Classics unit), 7J black minilites c/w Uniroyal tyres (Crikey, un-stickable), Revington's Targa springs. Now needs some engine work and some brakes. Otherwise, well on its way to becoming a Club Triumph type car, i.e. one that is actually used! Previously owned: Triumph Dolomite Sprint (Now owned by Paul Hughes) Herald 1200 Coupe on mk2 chassis (Now owned by Jess Cook and being properly used) Vitesse mk2 Conv: Sold in 1983, still on the road! Various Citroens and Pugs DD: Focus ST Diesel...torquey! |
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"TedTaylor"
posts: 2541 Wye Dean groupjoined on Fri 2nd Jul 2010 |
posted Tue 29th Jan 2019
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Tim with the budget Paul has, unless he is in a desperate hurry Paul would be better going for a genuine article ...... one would turn up eventually. The only thing is that with the lack of availability he will not be able to wait and select from what comes up. MUT Mad Uncle Ted! |
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"65redspit"
posts: 21 North London & Herts group joined on Tue 20th Jan 2015 |
posted Tue 29th Jan 2019
reply 11 of 15
Thanks for the really informative info Tim, useful starting point. I would want to start with an original and go from there. Gived me food for thought on the right mods to start understanding though :0)) Thanks :0)) |
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"timbancroft61"
posts: 10414 Website ModeratorLibrary Manager RBRR organising team member joined on Tue 31st Mar 1998 |
posted Thu 31st Jan 2019
reply 12 of 15
Think I may have been on drugs with the Suspension budget, £1K would do! Sorry. Club Triumph Round Britain Reliability Run: Part of the organising team, and honoured to be associated 1970 TR6 Maroon. Bought May 2018. Since pruchase: Full suspension re-build, new clutch and propshaft plus re-built driveshafts. Goes well. Blimey, lots more done now, gearbox replaced (Canley Classics unit), 7J black minilites c/w Uniroyal tyres (Crikey, un-stickable), Revington's Targa springs. Now needs some engine work and some brakes. Otherwise, well on its way to becoming a Club Triumph type car, i.e. one that is actually used! Previously owned: Triumph Dolomite Sprint (Now owned by Paul Hughes) Herald 1200 Coupe on mk2 chassis (Now owned by Jess Cook and being properly used) Vitesse mk2 Conv: Sold in 1983, still on the road! Various Citroens and Pugs DD: Focus ST Diesel...torquey! |
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"65redspit"
posts: 21 North London & Herts group joined on Tue 20th Jan 2015 |
posted Thu 31st Jan 2019
reply 13 of 15
Tim, it ALWAYS costs more than you think !! |
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"65redspit"
posts: 21 North London & Herts group joined on Tue 20th Jan 2015 |
posted Thu 31st Jan 2019
reply 14 of 15
Tim, it ALWAYS costs more than you think !! |
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"TedTaylor"
posts: 2541 Wye Dean groupjoined on Fri 2nd Jul 2010 |
posted Mon 4th Feb 2019
reply 15 of 15
Mike Charlton has just posted on the CT Facebook page that he may have something coming up.
MUT Mad Uncle Ted! |
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