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Martin M
November 26, 2017, 3:56pm Report to Moderator


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Hi,
I´m putting together my Herald Estate with Vitesse (Rotoflex) running gear.
I bought a rear handbrake cable but that seems to be by far too long. I´m using the cable guides at the frame, near the diff mounting, not at the body.
It is 175 cm long.
Does someone know the various length of these cables or has a Vitesse Roto one at hand and can measure?

BR
Martin




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Nick Jones
November 26, 2017, 10:27pm Report to Moderator

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Don't know the lengths, but I do know you get problems using the chassis guides with the roto suspension.  It causes too much length change as the suspension position changes and the handbrake gets pulled on going over bumps or as weight is added to the car, unless the cable is set really slack.

Perhaps you have the rotoflex brake cable?  Really suggest the guides on the body tub are used - but if they are not fitted, you have a problem!  I have cables with outer sleeves on my car for this reason......

Nick


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JohnD
November 26, 2017, 11:01pm Report to Moderator


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It might be the cross-cable, the one the quadrant works on that isn't the right length.
I bought some sink-plug chain, looks like poppet-balls, to rune throrugh the mechanism and measure exactly how long I needed.
It was for my modded rear axle.

John


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Martin M
November 27, 2017, 9:52am Report to Moderator


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Hi Nick,
I know the handbrack should be "slackly" setted for that reason. And unfortunately the Herald  has not the guides titted to the body
How did you mount the cables with outer sleeves? Where did you  fix it against the Body / Chassis?

Martin
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Martin M
November 27, 2017, 11:46am Report to Moderator


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hmmm, could mount some bent tubes to the body, thus curing the routing issue
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Nick Jones
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Quoted from Martin M
Hi Nick,
I know the handbrack should be "slackly" setted for that reason. And unfortunately the Herald  has not the guides titted to the body
How did you mount the cables with outer sleeves? Where did you  fix it against the Body / Chassis?

Martin


Hi Martin,

I made a "reaction plate" that bolts to the floor just behind the relay mechanism and some brackets that fit on the vertical links.  The cable was modified Fiat 127 IIRC.  Will be a problem to replace in a hurry!  Works better but not perfect.

My original problem was that I had a Mk1 tub on a Mk2 chassis - so no guides at all!  And I didn't realise until the car was quite well assembled    I welded the chassis brackets on but as I already mentioned, this really doesn't work that well.

Best solution would be to get the section of floor that includes the roto handbrake guides from a donor tub and fit it to your tub using plug welds from above.  Not easy.  This is what we did, more or less, for our Spitfire (to prove that I can learn from my errors!) but was done with the tub off the chassis and upside down - so much easier!

Nick


Nick Jones
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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in progress
Spitfire MKIV son's project now on the road as a daily driver
2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet.  Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea

http://www.tengaston.plus.com
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Martin M
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I found the remains of some handbrake cable guides removed from a chassis.
They can be the starting Point to fabricate something to be bolted (as verything is painted) to the tub.

Does someone have a pic where the guides sit at the tub of a Vitesse?

Martin
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