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Nick Tucker
June 29, 2017, 5:06pm Report to Moderator

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Hi All.
I,ve just had the rear end of my Vitesse done. New drive shafts and fully poly bushed. I now need some new drop links but seem to be having trouble sourcing some.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers Nick


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Nick Jones
June 29, 2017, 5:42pm Report to Moderator

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Drop links?

Mk2 and links to lever arm dampers?  Lever arms best replaced with telescopics IMHO.......


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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017.
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Nick Tucker
June 29, 2017, 5:53pm Report to Moderator

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Hi Nick.
Yeah Mk2 Vitesse.
The guy in the garage called them that. Rimmers show a different approach when looking for the links. Is this what you mean and is it an easy change.
Cheers Nick


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JohnD
June 29, 2017, 7:02pm Report to Moderator


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Rear turret extensions mount telescopic dampers more vertically, so that they don't drop their rate as they compress.

See Moss page - other suppliers are available: http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/rotoflex-telescopic-damper-conversion-kit.html

John


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ahebron
June 29, 2017, 8:48pm Report to Moderator


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Hi Nick
I am assuming it would be the ball joint at the top of the link that is failing.
There used to be companies that would recondition ball joints for steering parts maybe you could find one of them.
Or find an engineer to make you a new link maybe using rose joints or the like.
Other cars used lever dampers maybe a search will find an arm of similar dimensions.

It looks to me that the automatic answer relating to lever dampers is telescopic.
I asked a question relating to rear shocks on my Mk2 and like you got told to replace it with telescopics which was annoying as I wanted an answer about lever dampers.

Good luck
Adrian


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JohnD
June 30, 2017, 7:43am Report to Moderator


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Cantfwork it out in my head!
A telescopic can suffer  from falling rate as the suspension rises, if mounted at an angle.
Will a fi,ex, lever damper do so IFC the drop li no isn't vertical?

John


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Nick Jones
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There are good reasons why the default answer is to fit telescopics.

- The lever arm system was only used on the Vitesse Mk2, so parts are not easy to find, either the dampers or the drop links.  The dampers are probably used on other vehicles (don't know what) and a rebuildable so the biggest problem is the drop links, especially that top rubber-filled ball joint.
- The lever arm system doesn't work very well - less effective than telescopics.  It still remember the huge improvement in rear end behaviour that came from fitting plain ordinary Armstrong telescopics on my Vitesse.
- Fitting telescopics gives some choice of damper makes and the possibility of fitting adjustable ones.
- Fitting telescopics is pretty straightforward.  There are chassis extension kits available from various places and if you've converted to CV shafts you  can use the standard (for non-rotor cars) chassis mounting position anyway.

If you want to stick with the lever arm dampers, fair enough.  Shouldn't be too hard to engineer a nice solution.  Quite a few modern cars use nice ball joints (like small track-rod ends) and you can buy these http://www.racingbeateurope.co.....nd-linksb-1863-p.asp for MX-5 which implies that you can buy the joints themselves seperately.

Nick


Nick Jones
Somerset UK

Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in progress
Spitfire MKIV son's project now on the road as a daily driver
2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet.  Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea

http://www.tengaston.plus.com
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Nick Tucker
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Hi guys.
Sorry been off for a bit, decorating at mo .
Anyway thanks for the replies. Have decided to go down the telescopic route as have upgraded everything else back there .
Cheers Nick.


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