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Antonnick
June 28, 2017, 9:14pm Report to Moderator


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I recently renovated the doors on my 13/60 Herald replacing the wind up mechanisms. Before the Windows were almost impossible to wind up and the rear window channel Fixing lug on one side was broken. Simple welding Job to fix it.

Now inside the channel were the remains of some stuff, maybe hardened felt I do not know. I scraped it all out and rustproffed the channel before replacing it. However, without this "infill" the window Rattles a lot when wound down.

I have tried to find out what this infill is to order new but the normal suppliers do not seem to list it - or maybe they do but under another Name.

Anyone put me in the right direction for the correct item ?


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marktheherald
June 29, 2017, 7:49am Report to Moderator


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Not sure if you get the entire channel assy, or more likely for the price, the felt..  Part 33 on the diagram, Part T12 on the parts list...
https://www.canleyclassics.com/triumph-herald-13/60-door-assembly
https://www.canleyclassics.com/triumph-herald-13/60-door-assembly


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yorkshire_spam
June 29, 2017, 10:50am Report to Moderator

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Is it anything like this:

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RobPearce
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Item 12 on that Canley diagram is the felt insert for the front runner, showing temporarily out of stock (although the full roll of it is in stock). Replacing that was what fixed the completely jammed passenger window on Tessa. I think the rear channel is probably the same stuff but shorter?


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1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
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1980 Dolomite 1500
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Antonnick
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Yes that does seem to be the part I Need. and a roll is a good idea to do the front as well as the other door. Thankyou for that, I could not decipher the "Canley codes".  


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Antonnick
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Yes that does seem to be the part I Need. and a roll is a good idea to do the front as well as the other door. Thankyou for that, I could not decipher the "Canley codes".  

However, from the description, the T12 is the steel channel assembly itself, is it not?

I think a roll of the "12" is probably the right one but I do not Need 30 m


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heraldcoupe
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Quoted from RobPearce
Item 12 on that Canley diagram is the felt insert for the front runner, showing temporarily out of stock (although the full roll of it is in stock).


What's supplied by many traders is a flexible flocked rubber, however the original fitting was a rigid channel as shown in the earlier image, ie the same stuff goes in the back and front channels.

I sued to sell this, it should still be readily available from people like Woolies even if Triumph specialists don't carry it,

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heraldcoupe
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yorkshire_spam
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The rigid channel I posted a picture of is a standard Land Rover part.
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Paudman
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Quite easily replaced and if secured with small flat-top rivets the glass will roll quite easily once all beds in.


If it was made by man, it can be dismantled and rebuilt by man. Usually just not as easily.
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MarkB
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I replaced this on my Vitesse restoration years ago can't remember where I bought it from, but it pinched and gripped the window to tightly making it impossible to wind up and down. I ended up shaving it down with a scalpel, so there maybe more than one size available out there.

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Pete Lewis
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if you take the channel out and decide to remove the brackets as the felt is trapped by the rivets  

do make a sketch or take a photo as these are easy to re assemble and find however careful you are that the brackets refit upsidedown wrong way round and defy any normal strong tea to get them back how it should be

they are devious little s*ds

you  also need a small diameter long nose pop rivet nozzle

Pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
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heraldcoupe
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Quoted from MarkB
I replaced this on my Vitesse restoration years ago can't remember where I bought it from, but it pinched and gripped the window to tightly making it impossible to wind up and down. I ended up shaving it down with a scalpel, so there maybe more than one size available out there.


You're right, there are a couple of different types. They're theoretically designed for the same job, however one manufacturer makes a product with a much softer spine so it complies more readily - this is ideal for fitting in the existing runners at front and rear.
Afraid I couldn't tell you who stocks this type, I always bought it from a direct trade supplier. If possible, try and buy it over the counter or at shows where you can get a feel fro whether it will conform,

Cheers,
Bill.


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