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Matt Neale
May 6, 2017, 3:37pm Report to Moderator


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I was just about to order a spring compressor as I need to change my front springs.  I was looking at the manual and they use a Churchill S4221A.  This is the press I have in the garage.  I think I need a S4221A-5 attachment.  Has anyone got one, or can you buy them?  

Funds are a bit tight at the moment so I don't want to spend £50 a tool that I'll use for just one afternoon.  If anyone is in the Sheffield area and has one I could loan??  Happy to pay back with a drink of your choice!


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Those numbers meant nothing to me so here is a picture from the factory workshop manual. Does look rather different from the normal compressor sold now.

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Matt Neale
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Yes that's the one on sale.  I'm just being a bit of a skinflint and seeing if I can get this done on the cheap but without taking my head off.


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Pete Lewis
May 7, 2017, 2:21pm Report to Moderator

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or some 18mm ply cut to shape with holes and studding from BQ

Pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
now has power steering ,poly bushed and Alfa 156 seats
location  Luton
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Bitumen Boy
May 7, 2017, 8:42pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Pete Lewis
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or some 18mm ply cut to shape with holes and studding from BQ

Pete


I wouldn't trust most of the ply on the market these days to take that sort of stress, it's not much cop on the whole. Maybe 3x 18mm laminated would be safe but then again...

Might it be worth trying to get a local garage to do this part of the job for you, if you haven't got the right kit and don't want to shell out?
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bxbodger
May 8, 2017, 8:13am Report to Moderator

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eBay is absolutely awash with Hilka spring compressors for around £10-£15 that'll do the job.


'68 Mk1 Vitesse convertible boneshaker, and a somewhat more economical '89 998cc A series powered Metro.
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Pete Lewis
May 8, 2017, 9:31am Report to Moderator

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thought there  is  generally not much room for external hook type clamps,  on our small springs  hence the plate and stud approach


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
now has power steering ,poly bushed and Alfa 156 seats
location  Luton
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marktheherald
May 8, 2017, 11:04am Report to Moderator


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A tight fit, but I managed my standard 13/60 springs with my old Draper compressors. I did have to lever them out at the end however...



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RobPearce
May 8, 2017, 11:26am Report to Moderator

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The ones I have (TSSC, I think, but 25+years old) are similar but have steel claws rather than alloy, which are slightly thinner and less difficult to remove from the fitted spring.


Current fleet
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1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
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1977 Dolomite 1850
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I offered the OP (by private message) the loan of my TSCC Churchill compressor, as I'm only a few miles from Sheffield, but no reply. I certainly wouldn't build one from plywood unless I needed a large hole in my garage roof!
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Matt Neale
May 9, 2017, 7:10am Report to Moderator


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Missed the private message.

I dropped them into my local garage yesterday.  I didn't fancy messing about with plywood.  I'm refitting the old springs and dampers that originally came with the car to see if it improves the set up.  Currently it's sitting way too low at the front.  I fitted new 'uprated' springs I bought from eBay. They almost touch when the weight of the engine is on them.  If this fixes the issue I will eventually buy a new set of standard springs and new dampers.  If it's ok I'll give you a call then.

Many thanks for the offer.


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Paudman
May 9, 2017, 3:26pm Report to Moderator

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Don't forget to use plenty of grease on the threads of the spring compressor. First one I had, I didn't grease it and once the spring pressure became very strong I stripped the threads off the two long bolts. Thankfully the supplier replaced it as there were no instructions with it - there should have been - and I hadn't known to grease it.


If it was made by man, it can be dismantled and rebuilt by man. Usually just not as easily.
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Matt Neale
May 13, 2017, 8:40am Report to Moderator


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Took it to my local garage.  They didn't use the correct compressor to begin with and it almost took one of their heads off.  They found the proper tool later on and they did it for a tenner and even loaned me the tool to make any adjustments needed.

The only problem is, I snapped off one one of the threads on the top plate when refitting.  I probably over tightened it.  No chance of getting a replacement till next week now.


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Pete Lewis
May 13, 2017, 11:57am Report to Moderator

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can you not drill it out and replace the stud with a bolt ??

Pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
now has power steering ,poly bushed and Alfa 156 seats
location  Luton
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