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ferny
April 2, 2017, 1:20pm Report to Moderator

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Use spacers. I've extended the Y bracket on mine and tge steering wheel is able an inch lower.


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glang
April 2, 2017, 1:44pm Report to Moderator

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at 6'4 I would have thought he would want to raise the wheel not lower it....
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Casper
April 2, 2017, 3:19pm Report to Moderator


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I've extended the Y bracket on mine and tge steering wheel is able an inch lower.

which will also move the top backwards

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5'7", size 10 shoes  and had to have the original seats all the way back. Also have a small steering wheel as the original rubs my legs,


Cause and effect ?

C.


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ferny
April 3, 2017, 9:45am Report to Moderator

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Not really. The only reason the bracket was extended was to allow new dials to be fitted, which happened after the original seats were removed. The MX5 seats are lower as well.


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Antonnick
April 3, 2017, 2:13pm Report to Moderator


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never heard of any up n down adjustment but yes to in/out which, as the column is angled, does also give a some change in the height of the wheel relative to the seat base....


Sorry yes, that is what I meant. I assume that the locking arrangment is the flat "Impact clamp" ? I have removed this but cannot get any movement. Probably after nearly 50 years  in the same Position it the lower shaft has welded itself to the upperinner steering column.  The only solution I can see is to remove the complete steering assembly and free it up on the bench before replacing.

Does that seem Logical?



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Steve P
April 3, 2017, 4:42pm Report to Moderator
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I`m 6`2 with size 11 feet and would be happy to bring my Herald 13/60 convertible to Bracknell for you to try,I am 20 minutes away.
i find it quite comfortable,it has Vitesse seats and a smaller steering wheel but apart from that standard interior.

I did the RBRR in it no problem(apart from sleeping with the gale from the window gaps).

Pm me if your interested.
Steve


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glang
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Quoted from Antonnick


Sorry yes, that is what I meant. I assume that the locking arrangment is the flat "Impact clamp" ? I have removed this but cannot get any movement. Probably after nearly 50 years  in the same Position it the lower shaft has welded itself to the upperinner steering column.  The only solution I can see is to remove the complete steering assembly and free it up on the bench before replacing.

Does that seem Logical?



I think that if you undo the clamp and then turn the steering wheel and it still moves the rack then yes as you say the column must be seized
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Antonnick
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Yes that seems to be  the case. However, is it possible that some Kind of keyway exists in the lower column to prevent it turning inside the upper column?
I will find out in the next few days after I dismantle it.


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Nick Jones
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Quoted from Antonnick
Yes that seems to be  the case. However, is it possible that some Kind of keyway exists in the lower column to prevent it turning inside the upper column?
I will find out in the next few days after I dismantle it.


No keyway.  It will be rusty.  Needs to be freed up to work as Triumph intended - ie telescope in the event of severe impact - so worth doing!  Our Spitfire was the same and cleaned up fine once removed (which took some effort)

Nick


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Antonnick
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Seized would be an Understatement. There was no way that the upper column could be freed in-situ. So I resolved to disconnect at the steering rack nuckle. Removing the upperpinch bolt did not free it. Removing the bottom one did and only with substantial hammering could I then remove the knuckle allowing  the whole steering column to be extracted from the inside of the car.

With the lower column then clamped in a vice more hammering was needed ( and I broke a nail   ) until it eventually freed itself enough.
to get free telescopic movement however, a lot of cleaning and oiling was necessary. what an effort just to have the steering wheel adjustable again.

Is this normal? Do others in the Forum adjust their steering anyway?



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glang
April 10, 2017, 6:09pm Report to Moderator

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I think these cars used to come from the factory with the steering wheel out as far as possible so as to maximise the collapsing effect and as most people find them relatively small theres never been much need to adjust....
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Casper
April 10, 2017, 6:27pm Report to Moderator


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That wouldn't have telescoped then!
I have several times adjusted the column on a car new to me.  It is not an easy or frequent adjustment, unlike modern versions.  Instuctions on 'how to' were not included in the Owners handbook, but they were in the owner's repair manual.

You will need to take particular care to reattach the steering knuckle in the correct alignment, or you will have trouble with your indicators (not) cancelling.

C.


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Antonnick
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Had not thought of that - thanks for the tip


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Dogsbody47uk
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I must be lucky because I've never had a problem with the sliding joint! Cheers, Dave.


First Triumph: 200cc Tiger Cub. Followed by in no particular order, 350 and 500 Royal Enfield Bullet, Herald 1200, Herald 13/60, Mini 1275 GT, Vitesse 2L convertible, Audi 80, Audi 80 Sport, Fiat 124 Sport Coupe, Triumph 2000, Mk 2 Estate, Fiat Tipo, Fiat Stilo, Fiat Uno, Peugeuot Turbo Diesel(yuk), Lancia HPE 2000ie (wow! a dream!) So far 3 Heralds and My fourth Vitesse in the garage. I may have forgotten some... It's my age.. Oh , Honda 400 four.. Terrifying! And the 2 Renault 5s. Oh, and the Ford Granada 3 litre estate..I think that's the lot.
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