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apples24
January 27, 2017, 2:37pm Report to Moderator

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hi all registered to ask a few questions as been offered a car


its a A REG COUPE

quite restored looks pretty

are they rare or worth any more than convertible?

thanks guys


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Jonny-Jimbo
January 27, 2017, 3:23pm Report to Moderator

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They can be, depends on condition and originality a lot of the time. Only thing that might be worth more than a Coupe is a Courier, usually.

It also depends if it's a 948 or a 1200 coupe, and if it's a 948, if it's a smooth roof. If you can post photos etc it'll help make an assessment.


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apples24
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It's a 1200 I have pics but can't get them on here
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willows40
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Coupe's might be rarer than convertibles but also less people want them. So might be slightly more valuable but harder to sell as more people would be looking for a convertible.
Like Jon said 948 smooth roof coupes seem to be the most sort after followed by the ribbed roof 948 and then the 1200, so unless immaculate not worth a fortune.
I have a coupe which in the process of rebuilding but going to cost a lot more than it will ever be worth

Cheers Andy


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1967 vitesse convertible (needs rebuilding)
1967 mk1 gt6 (in bits)
1966 mk3 spitfire o/d (work in progress)
1984 Capri ( off road since 1999)
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heraldcoupe
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I would differ on Andy's point aboput desireability. I don't see Coupes hanging around for long, nearly every one I've seen come to market in recent years has sold quickly. There are exceptions, one or two have been very optimistically priced, while others have been in extremely rough condition. Prices are usually higher than Convertibles, with less of them available.
1200 Coupes on the Mk2 chassis (post June 1962) are pretty thin on the ground, arguably the best of the lot in terms of practicality, though I personally love the early features of the 948s.

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Bill.


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Ridgetone Triumph
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I have had two Coupe's, one a very early model '59  and a '64, the '64 was by far the better of the 2 cars and as Bill says, more practical.  


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Richard B
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Spitfire 2.5PI - 1967 having surgery, PI Saloon - 1969 RBRR x 3, PI Estate - 1969 (to restore), Stag - 1971 RBRR x 2,
PI Saloon MkII - 1971(stalled project), Sold some cars!  

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apples24
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It wasn't my item I do not own the car
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Nick Jones
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Looks pretty good - as far can be seen from pics.  The wire wheels aren't to my taste and the purists won't like the Vitesse bumper cappings, but both are easily sorted.

Has 13/60 engine fitted by the looks - which could be considered an advantage provided it's on a Mk2 chassis!

Nick


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Quoted from Nick Jones
Has 13/60 engine fitted by the looks - which could be considered an advantage provided it's on a Mk2 chassis!


It's a Mk1 chassis...


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Mark Hammond
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Quoted from heraldcoupe


It's a Mk1 chassis...


I'm not doubting you, but how can you tell from those photos?

Mark


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heraldcoupe
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Quoted from Mark Hammond
I'm not doubting you, but how can you tell from those photos?


Firstly, the bonnet adjusting bar is located outboard of the side valance, with the Mk2 the valance is bulged and the bolt goes through the valance first.
Secondly, the front extensions on the Mk2 splay out from parallel, with an additional fillet further splayed out to meet the front bar. this chassis lacks either feature.

Cheers,
Bill.


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Jonny-Jimbo
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Appears to have an ARB on the front. Was this retro-fitted, as I didn't think the early cars had them?


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
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herald948
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Quoted from Jonny-Jimbo
Appears to have an ARB on the front. Was this retro-fitted, as I didn't think the early cars had them?

To my knowledge, all but perhaps one or more of the earliest prototypes had the front ARB. Meanwhile, I admit, in looking the pictures of the Coupé, to being fascinated by what looks to be a double- or triple-decker brake master cylinder reservoir!  


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GT6 M
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always thought the Coupes were the nicest of the lot
just a shame they did,nt go to MK2 Vittesse running gear an engine

prob would ev sold alott moer of em

M


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Quoted from GT6 M
always thought the Coupes were the nicest of the lot
just a shame they did,nt go to MK2 Vittesse running gear an engine

prob would ev sold alott moer of em

M


That's what I'm in the process of doing with my coupe. Can't decide if to go rotoflex or swing spring on rear


1968 mk 1 estate for sale (now sold)
1967 vitesse convertible (needs rebuilding)
1967 mk1 gt6 (in bits)
1966 mk3 spitfire o/d (work in progress)
1984 Capri ( off road since 1999)
1977 stag ( floor rotten)
1970 herald convertible, 948 bonnet,twin carbs,o/d etc on road
1971 mgbgt auto (rolling resto)
19?? Herald/vitesse estate next project
1992 merc 190e auto (daily drive)
1973 mk3 gt6(project)
1962 herald coupe being rebuilt with vitesse running gear
1972  mgbgt
to many cars not enough time
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Mark Hammond
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Better than that, put a 1228cc Climax engine in it and recreate a Brabham Herald.....

Mark


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heraldcoupe
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Quoted from Jonny-Jimbo
Appears to have an ARB on the front. Was this retro-fitted, as I didn't think the early cars had them?


The only production Heralds which lacked an ARB were the Courier Vans, unless you include the Indian cars, which are different in so many ways,

Cheers,
Bill.


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Jonny-Jimbo
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Every day is a school day.


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
93 BMW 530i - Donor
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The centre seat belt mountings are in a strange position? Mine are both mounted further forwards and lower down.


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Quoted from G8HSV
The centre seat belt mountings are in a strange position? Mine are both mounted further forwards and lower down.


It's a DIY installation in a car which may not have been fitted with seatbelts when built.

Cheers,
Bill.


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948coupe Downunder
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I have just bought a 1959 coupe  from my brother its a low mileage car that has been dry stored for many years (since 1970) they are in my humble opinion the prettiest of all of the Herald variants and I hope to have it back on the road very soon.
It has the 948 engine with twin SUs and while I don't expect great performance I do think it will have a superb presence enhanced by my intention to do as little as possible so as  to  retain  its "survivor patina"
Here is a vid [url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5C5ADuJ2Oo&t=1s[/url]  I took when my brother got the car at the time I never thought that I would be able to own it but circumstances have changed and thanks to my very generous wife I will have it in may garage tomorrow morning  
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Quoted from herald948

I admit, in looking the pictures of the Coupé, to being fascinated by what looks to be a double- or triple-decker brake master cylinder reservoir!  


Wonder why it requires so much fluid? I'm not sure that mod would be leak-free, not to mention safe...



If it was made by man, it can be dismantled and rebuilt by man. Usually just not as easily.
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Quoted from 948coupe Downunder
I have just bought a 1959 coupe  from my brother ... I do think it will have a superb presence enhanced by my intention to do as little as possible so as  to  retain  its "survivor patina"  


Wow! Very impressive! I do hope you'll be able to do as little as possible not just to maintain the "patina" but also to maintain many original details, some of which changed soon after that car was built and many of which are so easily lost during a "restoration"! Just two examples of that would be the "peaked" doors and the small rubber boots on the bulkhead where the pedals like to the master cylinders.


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Hi   herald948
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Wow! Very impressive! I do hope you'll be able to do as little as possible not just to maintain the "patina" but also to maintain many original details, some of which changed soon after that car was built and many of which are so easily lost during a "restoration"! Just two examples of that would be the "peaked" doors and the small rubber boots on the bulkhead where the pedals like to the master cylinders.


It helps that my pockets are not very deep at the moment but I will eventually have to repaint her because the paint has lost a great deal of its ability to remain attached to the car but I will be repainting it in the same colors and I simply can't afford to re-chrome the bright work that has the inevitable pitting none the less I am trying to be sensitive about it Things like the peddle rubbers will remain unchanged unless they totally crack up and then I may have to go to the later style simply because I don't think identical replacements can be bought from any of the usual suspects.
I went over the brakes yesterday and was delighted to find that the front shoes look brand new and the back ones have tons of meat left on them as well so once I have fixed the very minor  damage to the bonnet only a set of tyres and a couple of very minor issues like a generator light that stays on stand between me and driving her on the road    
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