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marktheherald
January 24, 2017, 1:35pm Report to Moderator


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13/60 (1500 o/d) Estate

Eastbourne. E.Sussex.

     FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
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Rosbif
January 24, 2017, 2:26pm Report to Moderator


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I like the steering wheel and that's about it.


Ruby : 1968 13/60 convertible
"I'm not rich enough to buy cheap"

"If it isn't broken don't fix it" - where's the fun in that?
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garyf
January 24, 2017, 3:47pm Report to Moderator

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I like the Colour, different?

Don't like the price though

Around £17.5K in Pounds   

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herald948
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--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)
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sprtz
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1968 1300TC, 1965 Vitesse 6 conv.
Past cars; 1976 2500TC, 1978 Dolomite 1850HL, 1969 Herald 13/60, 1970 spitfire MK3.  
Non triumph; '72 renault 5 TL rustbucket, '70 opel manta 1,6S, '88 citroen BX 1,9 16V, '94 subaru impreza, '06 renault megane CC.
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Nick Jones
January 24, 2017, 8:12pm Report to Moderator

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Wah!  £ 20K! I know they are dead rare west of the pond but even so......

Panel fit none too great and appears to have a Mk2/3 GT6 engine fitted to match the 2L badge on the grill, though everything else says 1600.  Something(s) odd about the dash too.

Nick


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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in progress
Spitfire MKIV son's project now on the road as a daily driver
2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet.  Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea

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Matt306
January 24, 2017, 8:16pm Report to Moderator

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They both have the steering wheel on the wrong side, what sort of restoration is that?


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Triumph 13/60 1970 Convertible  first car restoration, many botches much learnt... Now back MOTd and Taxed... 2016 RBRR COMPLETE
1974 Spitfire Mk IV in Yellow and Rust... for restoration
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Rosbif
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Quoted from Matt306
They both have the steering wheel on the wrong side, what sort of restoration is that?


That is so the passenger drives while the driver enjoys the view


Ruby : 1968 13/60 convertible
"I'm not rich enough to buy cheap"

"If it isn't broken don't fix it" - where's the fun in that?
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willows40
January 24, 2017, 9:55pm Report to Moderator

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[quote=Nick_Jones  Something(s) odd about the dash too.

Nick[/quote]

The dash looks like an early vitesse one with the knobs recessed into the wood instead of sitting on the wood. When I had my early "62" convertible it had the dash like that. Can't remember if it had the other small dial
Cheers Andy


1968 mk 1 estate for sale (now sold)
1967 vitesse convertible (needs rebuilding)
1967 mk1 gt6 (in bits)
1966 mk3 spitfire o/d (work in progress)
1984 Capri ( off road since 1999)
1977 stag ( floor rotten)
1970 herald convertible, 948 bonnet,twin carbs,o/d etc on road
1971 mgbgt auto (rolling resto)
19?? Herald/vitesse estate next project
1992 merc 190e auto (daily drive)
1973 mk3 gt6(project)
1962 herald coupe being rebuilt with vitesse running gear
1972  mgbgt
to many cars not enough time
location wymondham,norfolk
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Mark Hammond
January 25, 2017, 5:56am Report to Moderator

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Recessed switches normal for the year and the temp gauge was standard on US spec Heralds and Vitesse, sometimes badged as Sports 4 and Sports 6's too.

Mark


Herald 1200 Saloon, owned (in the family) from new, Royal Blue/Black trim
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kin74
January 25, 2017, 7:29am Report to Moderator

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Auction hammer prices are always out of this world.
And why on the hell should you spend a lot of money for a (apparently) professional restoration and still do everything wrong?!


Alessandro Maschi

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1964 Spitfire 4 (sold)
1966 Spitfire Mk2 (running)
1967 Vitesse 2L Convertible (sold)
1969 GT6 Mk2 (running)
1975 Spitfire 1500 (sold)
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Jonny-Jimbo
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The body plate should be body colour too, and it may be the angle the photos are taken at, but to me it looks like they're both in the wrong place on the body?

It's not an unpleasant car overall, just don't think it's worth that, but I guess at least two people were willing to pay the best part of 20K for it...


62 Vitesse 1600 - Slammed & modified
67 2000 - Fitted with 2.5 o/d - 2012 RBRR, 2015 Essex Rally, 2016 HCR, 2016 RBRR
67 2000 Estate - Dormant
70 Herald 13/60 - First car, many bits
77 CZ 125 Sport - 70 miles on the clock
77 Kawasaki KM90 - Shop hack
81 Yamaha DT125 - Many bits
88 Ginetta G4/4 - Dead
88 BMW E30 320i - For Sale
89 Citroen AX GT - Rally car!
90 BMW E30 318iS - Building to FIA spec
90 Mazda Eunos 1.6 - 'Popeye'
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mpbarrett
January 25, 2017, 10:18am Report to Moderator
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I Love the "Coachwork by Giovanni Michelotti " bit makes it sound very special... but they all have that!

Mike


"Little Red", 13/60 Herald convertible with 1500 engine and O/D, (1/2 2007 10CR, 1/2 2009 10CR and 1 RBRR). March 2013 Back from darkest Norfolk and now very shiny.... 2017 rust coming thru again
"Little Blue", 2.5L GT6 mk3, Didnt do the 2009 10CR as it refuses��to leave East Anglia. Didnt finish 2010 RBRR due to vibration for propshaft and very doggy ignition. Finished the 2011 10CR, getting ready for the 2013 10CR. Broke down up a 2650M mountain. Now with new owner.
"Little Silver" Triumph Acclaim. Now owned by the editor of Triumph World. Since been sold on....
"Big Blue" 1972 blue TR6 the new toy Was fun one 10CR and a trip thru the Alps. Now in Wales.

Back to the Herald (about to get Megasquirted), Jag XK8 and a campervan.
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Rosbif
January 25, 2017, 10:39am Report to Moderator


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Quoted from mpbarrett
I Love the "Coachwork by Giovanni Michelotti " bit makes it sound very special... but they all have that!

Mike


Oh S**T. I thought my 13/60 was a rare bespoke example, now you have spoilt it.


Ruby : 1968 13/60 convertible
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garyf
January 25, 2017, 11:05am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from kin74
Auction hammer prices are always out of this world.
And why on the hell should you spend a lot of money for a (apparently) professional restoration and still do everything wrong?!


You can get carried away at Auctions, I nearly did at the Brooklands Historics Auction back in 2015

It looks to have been nicely restored but £20K+ with Bonnet fit like that!

Also as previously stated looks to have either a late GT6 or Triumph 2000 Engine fitted

Unusual in Black, I believe only the early Vitesse/Sports 6 Models where available in Black?
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Steve P
January 25, 2017, 2:55pm Report to Moderator
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Didn`t that Herald start life as a Saloon?
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No. of Triumphs owned..2
No. of Triumphs working..2
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garyf
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Quoted from Steve P
Didn`t that Herald start life as a Saloon?
S


Yes, well spotted Steve LDL in the commission number?

Nearly £20k For a Mongrel!!
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nicmk1est
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i thought it was a bl special,,load of left over parts chucked in and hope for the best      yes big pocket is needed for this motor....nice colour
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...Are they really so expensive when one considers 'Dagenham Dustbin' Mk.II RS2000's go for that sort of money - & more + how much would it be to restore one to those standards; even doing the work oneself, with re-trimmed seats, decent new carpets, replacement panels, mechanical work, paint & goodness knows what else! If farmed out professionally I would imagine that £20k doesn't get you a completed car, these days, & you still have to provide the base vehicle...
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Nick Jones
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Quoted from Scimher
...Are they really so expensive when one considers 'Dagenham Dustbin' Mk.II RS2000's go for that sort of money - & more + how much would it be to restore one to those standards; even doing the work oneself, with re-trimmed seats, decent new carpets, replacement panels, mechanical work, paint & goodness knows what else! If farmed out professionally I would imagine that £20k doesn't get you a completed car, these days, & you still have to provide the base vehicle...


Well, I know what you mean - but at this kind of price level (and some way below too) I can't help thinking about what else I could buy with the same money.  Really nice Stag, and a Dolly Sprint.  Various interesting Porsches, TVR, Lotii - the list is long.  Anyway I already have a rattle-trap Vitesse!

Nick


Nick Jones
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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in progress
Spitfire MKIV son's project now on the road as a daily driver
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herald948
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Quoted from garyf


Yes, well spotted Steve LDL in the commission number?

Nearly £20k For a Mongrel!!


I have no way of knowing for sure, but I suspect the more likely scenario is that the paperwork (and presumably the commission number plate) started life with a Herald sedan. Unlike the home market, convertibles far outnumbered sedans in the US, often by a ratio of around 5:1!

It's possible that this car did start out as a sedan, but more likely (IMO) is that it's always been a convertible, for which any original title or other ownership paperwork was lost, only sometime later to be replaced by paperwork (and, hopefully, the commission number plate) from a sedan. Despite the "rarity" of the Herald sedan in the US, they were never held in very high regard, and it's likely that any number of otherwise decent sedans were cannibalized over the years to keep the more desirable convertibles running.

It would have been interesting to see what body number this poor thing sported. (Well, to ME it would have been interesting.... )



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)
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herald948
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Quoted from Mark Hammond
Recessed switches normal for the year and the temp gauge was standard on US spec Heralds and Vitesse, sometimes badged as Sports 4 and Sports 6's too.

Mark
Close, Mark! There were 679 Vitesse 6s badged as "Sports 6," all "1st series" and all convertibles, officially marketed in the US from late 1962 until...maybe 1964, when the last of them were finally sold. They were very slow sellers here, unfortunately. The Vitesse 6 continued to be sold in Canada in both convertible and sedan form; at some point the Canadian market cars seem to have gained the "Sports" badge as well.

Meanwhile, S-T USA downplayed the "Herald" name as much as they possibly could on the introduction of the 1200 series. US-destined 1200s never had the "herald" script dashboard badge, nor (with a very, very few exceptions) have the HERALD lettering on the bonnet. Advertising nearly always referred simply to the Triumph 1200! Somewhere around 1965, Triumph had the "Sports" badge ever so slightly retooled so that the pins would fit in the hole in the bootlid where the "Herald" badge went, and the cars then became "Sports 1200"!

There was a similar change on circa 1966-67 Heralds in Canada, going one step further. There, Heralds gained not only the "Sports" script to replace the "Herald" script on the bootlid, but also the home market 12/50 badge replaced the "1200" script" badge!

A bit more "anorakian" detail here: http://www.fairpoint.net/~herald948/database/sports.htm (If the link doesn't work, copy and paste it!)



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)
http://triumph-herald.us
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