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Steve P
January 25, 2017, 2:55pm Report to Moderator
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Didn`t that Herald start life as a Saloon?
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No. of Triumphs owned..2
No. of Triumphs working..2
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garyf
January 25, 2017, 3:31pm Report to Moderator

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Didn`t that Herald start life as a Saloon?
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Yes, well spotted Steve LDL in the commission number?

Nearly £20k For a Mongrel!!
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January 25, 2017, 4:29pm Report to Moderator


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i thought it was a bl special,,load of left over parts chucked in and hope for the best      yes big pocket is needed for this motor....nice colour
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...Are they really so expensive when one considers 'Dagenham Dustbin' Mk.II RS2000's go for that sort of money - & more + how much would it be to restore one to those standards; even doing the work oneself, with re-trimmed seats, decent new carpets, replacement panels, mechanical work, paint & goodness knows what else! If farmed out professionally I would imagine that £20k doesn't get you a completed car, these days, & you still have to provide the base vehicle...
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...Are they really so expensive when one considers 'Dagenham Dustbin' Mk.II RS2000's go for that sort of money - & more + how much would it be to restore one to those standards; even doing the work oneself, with re-trimmed seats, decent new carpets, replacement panels, mechanical work, paint & goodness knows what else! If farmed out professionally I would imagine that £20k doesn't get you a completed car, these days, & you still have to provide the base vehicle...


Well, I know what you mean - but at this kind of price level (and some way below too) I can't help thinking about what else I could buy with the same money.  Really nice Stag, and a Dolly Sprint.  Various interesting Porsches, TVR, Lotii - the list is long.  Anyway I already have a rattle-trap Vitesse!

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Vitesse Mk 1.5 Convertible EFI, Survivor of RBRR 2008, HCR & 10CR 2009, HCR 2010, 10CR2011, HCR 2012, 10CR2013, 10CR2015, HCR 2016 & HCR 2017.
GT6 Mk3 Roto - project in progress
Spitfire MKIV son's project now on the road as a daily driver
2.5 PI Saloon now EFI (PIe?), Engine rebuilt and running sweet.  Diff howling...... Survivor of HCR 2013 & 2014 Gone to live in Swansea

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herald948
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Yes, well spotted Steve LDL in the commission number?

Nearly £20k For a Mongrel!!


I have no way of knowing for sure, but I suspect the more likely scenario is that the paperwork (and presumably the commission number plate) started life with a Herald sedan. Unlike the home market, convertibles far outnumbered sedans in the US, often by a ratio of around 5:1!

It's possible that this car did start out as a sedan, but more likely (IMO) is that it's always been a convertible, for which any original title or other ownership paperwork was lost, only sometime later to be replaced by paperwork (and, hopefully, the commission number plate) from a sedan. Despite the "rarity" of the Herald sedan in the US, they were never held in very high regard, and it's likely that any number of otherwise decent sedans were cannibalized over the years to keep the more desirable convertibles running.

It would have been interesting to see what body number this poor thing sported. (Well, to ME it would have been interesting.... )



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)
http://triumph-herald.us
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herald948
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Recessed switches normal for the year and the temp gauge was standard on US spec Heralds and Vitesse, sometimes badged as Sports 4 and Sports 6's too.

Mark
Close, Mark! There were 679 Vitesse 6s badged as "Sports 6," all "1st series" and all convertibles, officially marketed in the US from late 1962 until...maybe 1964, when the last of them were finally sold. They were very slow sellers here, unfortunately. The Vitesse 6 continued to be sold in Canada in both convertible and sedan form; at some point the Canadian market cars seem to have gained the "Sports" badge as well.

Meanwhile, S-T USA downplayed the "Herald" name as much as they possibly could on the introduction of the 1200 series. US-destined 1200s never had the "herald" script dashboard badge, nor (with a very, very few exceptions) have the HERALD lettering on the bonnet. Advertising nearly always referred simply to the Triumph 1200! Somewhere around 1965, Triumph had the "Sports" badge ever so slightly retooled so that the pins would fit in the hole in the bootlid where the "Herald" badge went, and the cars then became "Sports 1200"!

There was a similar change on circa 1966-67 Heralds in Canada, going one step further. There, Heralds gained not only the "Sports" script to replace the "Herald" script on the bootlid, but also the home market 12/50 badge replaced the "1200" script" badge!

A bit more "anorakian" detail here: http://www.fairpoint.net/~herald948/database/sports.htm (If the link doesn't work, copy and paste it!)



--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)
http://triumph-herald.us
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