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glang
November 26, 2017, 9:38am Report to Moderator

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I only kicked it 2 or 3 times!


Looks good so are you going to treat the other door to some kicks?
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Paula
November 26, 2017, 10:22am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from glang


Looks good so are you going to treat the other door to some kicks?


The other door was "treated". It looks better now. But needs more of a slam so i'm thinking the latch needs fettling a bit


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glang
November 26, 2017, 4:31pm Report to Moderator

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Yes the latch is a good place to start but it could also be that the door now comes up against the seal too hard. With the latch I get as close as possible to it while gently closing the door with the handle button pressed in - there should be no contact noises until the door comes up against the seal and then on releasing the button the latch should fall into place. Obviously you want a bit of resistance against the seal but if its too much the door latch plate can be moved out slightly or if this means the door skin is no longer flush with the body you can bend the seal mounting flange inwards where needed, by hitting it with hammer and wooden dolly.
Hope this helps....
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Paula
November 29, 2017, 7:02pm Report to Moderator

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Yes the latch is a good place to start but it could also be that the door now comes up against the seal too hard. With the latch I get as close as possible to it while gently closing the door with the handle button pressed in - there should be no contact noises until the door comes up against the seal and then on releasing the button the latch should fall into place. Obviously you want a bit of resistance against the seal but if its too much the door latch plate can be moved out slightly or if this means the door skin is no longer flush with the body you can bend the seal mounting flange inwards where needed, by hitting it with hammer and wooden dolly.
Hope this helps....


Ok. Got it.
I'll revisit this in the new year when i get some more Triumph time!


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Paula
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I've spent the day taking the workings of a Spitfire Speedo i bought on ebay and putting in them into my old broken Vitesse Speedo.
I tried the Spitfire one in the Vitesse first and it was reading a little high, so i guessed that the workings are the same and just the front dial and the chassis need swapping (the mountain screws are in different places).
It's too dark to try it now, but assuming it works what do i have to do with the paperwork? MOT etc?
Thanks.




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Pete Lewis
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Hope you didnt take the needle off the replacement , unless you mark the drive disc  it unwinds the coiled hair spring and needs alot of messing to get it back to read right
guess you  can check the readings against a portable sat nav or phone

speedos can read slow but never fast
quite a wide slow reading tolerance of 10%+4mph   so if it reads 70 at a true 60 its with in/ on spec
Hope it all works ok
as for odometer readings , a small note on the glass when you mot it (unless the rules change and no mot next year)
And if you wish return your V5 with a note explaining the change fill in the new reading in the  boxes on the form
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1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
now has power steering ,poly bushed and Alfa 156 seats
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December 3, 2017, 6:39pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Pete Lewis
Hope you didnt take the needle off the replacement , unless you mark the drive disc  it unwinds the coiled hair spring and needs alot of messing to get it back to read right
guess you  can check the readings against a portable sat nav or phone

speedos can read slow but never fast
quite a wide slow reading tolerance of 10%+4mph   so if it reads 70 at a true 60 its with in/ on spec
Hope it all works ok
as for odometer readings , a small note on the glass when you mot it (unless the rules change and no mot next year)
And if you wish return your V5 with a note explaining the change fill in the new reading in the  boxes on the form
pete


I did mark the disc and i think it's under the correct tension. I did that by flicking the whole unit with my wrist and seeing how high i could get the needle before and after. Not very scientific.
Thanks for the info on the MOT/V5. I thought there would be a way


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speedos can read slow but never fast
quite a wide slow reading tolerance of 10%+4mph   so if it reads 70 at a true 60 its with in/ on spec
Hope it all works ok


Hi Peter,
             you have that back to front.
They can over read by up to 10%  but never under read.  That way you e'er on the side of safety.

Roger



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thescrapman
December 3, 2017, 7:57pm Report to Moderator

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You are both not quite right, modern cars are not allowed to read under, but can read up to 20% over, older cars (ours) can read 10% either way, so are allowed to under read.


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December 3, 2017, 8:09pm Report to Moderator

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10% either way is what i always believed.
Pretty generous really


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Quoted from Pete Lewis

speedos can read slow but never fast


Is that the right way round Pete?


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Pete Lewis
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No I blame this silly tablet never types what you want  , sorry about that  being back to front
I plucked the standards we used when I ran  our factory tachograph calibration dept.  specs for speedos  but pre 1993 when we closed down.
pete


1964 1600 Vitesse 6 Cactus and Black , now  sold
now have T2000   Mk2 saloon in French Blue/grey trim  been  restored without running since 1997
now has power steering ,poly bushed and Alfa 156 seats
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December 4, 2017, 2:41am Report to Moderator


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You should be able to reset the odometer to any reading you want by gently prising apart the plastic locking Lever(s) and moving the cogs. You only Need to do this if you are using the donor odometer of course.

When I did mine, in the end I kept the original odometer so this was not required.

The "recalibration" of the Speed can be done by testing against a sat.nav reading at a resonable Speed. If you travel at , say, 80km/hr per the sat-nav and the speedo is wildly off, either under or over, then the pointer can be removed and replaced accordingly.

To do this, you let the spring unwind by letting the pointer float behind the stop bar. Then remove the pointer and replace it in the estimated new Position, force it over the stop bar and test again. It Sound quite drastic but does work provided the Basic mechanics are Sound and the calibrated ratios are correct.
In other words you cannot mix say, a wolsey, hornet and Jaguar mk V. speedo.


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December 4, 2017, 10:14am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Antonnick
You should be able to reset the odometer to any reading you want by gently prising apart the plastic locking Lever(s) and moving the cogs. You only Need to do this if you are using the donor odometer of course.

When I did mine, in the end I kept the original odometer so this was not required.

The "recalibration" of the Speed can be done by testing against a sat.nav reading at a resonable Speed. If you travel at , say, 80km/hr per the sat-nav and the speedo is wildly off, either under or over, then the pointer can be removed and replaced accordingly.

To do this, you let the spring unwind by letting the pointer float behind the stop bar. Then remove the pointer and replace it in the estimated new Position, force it over the stop bar and test again. It Sound quite drastic but does work provided the Basic mechanics are Sound and the calibrated ratios are correct.
In other words you cannot mix say, a wolsey, hornet and Jaguar mk V. speedo.


I thought about resetting the mileage myself, but i bottled out. I'll try it on the old one first!
The needle can be spun on the shaft quite easily, but i found this didn't produce the results i was expecting. Then again that was with the faulty unit.



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You are both not quite right, modern cars are not allowed to read under, but can read up to 20% over, older cars (ours) can read 10% either way, so are allowed to under read.


Thanks Colin,
                 I didn't know that.

Learning something new every day.

Roger


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