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Moss Car Man
October 24, 2016, 11:58am Report to Moderator

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Hi all from not so sunny Devon!

I have just bought a 1969 Herald 13/60......sort of!  
Sort of because the car is a Moss Malvern, built in '86 using a Herald donor.
All the chassis, running gear, engine, etc. is original Herald, it basically has a Moss fibreglass body bolted on!
It has been stood in a garage for several years but stole my heart on sight!
With some fiddling & fettling, the car is up & running - however, what's puzzling me as I sort thru the "interesting" electrics is
that it is +ive earth BUT the Haynes book shows only a wiring diagram for -ive earth.  
Not all of the wiring colours seem to correspond with the negative earth diagram.

Any light anyone can shed on this will be gratefully accepted.
The only other thing right now is that I need to replace the rally seats. As the Moss could use the original Herald seats, what other seats fit Heralds please?

Thanks in advance,

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October 24, 2016, 12:10pm Report to Moderator

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Nice looking car!

If it's based on a 13/60 then it should be -ve earth. I can't think of a good reason to be otherwise. Perhaps you need to re-wire it correctly  
Actually, if the electrics are undocumented and hard to follow, then replacing the whole lot might be your easiest and safest option.

As to seats, MX5 seems the popular choice. My Vitesse has Toledo (2dr) front seats fitted, which are nicer than Herald ones and drop in really easy. Not so readily available these days, though.

Current fleet
1967 Vitesse 2L conv "Tessa"
1970 Spitfire Mk3 (project) "Toby"
1972 GT6 Mk3
Not enough time or space
Recently sold:
1972 2.5 PI estate "Harry" (gone to russell on here)
1973 Toledo 2-door "Spike" (gone to a club official)
Used to have:
1968 Vitesse 2L saloon
1980 Dolomite 1500
1977 Dolomite 1850
1980 Dolomite Sprint
1982 TR7 DHC Sprint
1975 2500S saloon
1971 Herald 13/60 Estate (with 1500 Spit engine)
1975 Stag
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October 24, 2016, 12:15pm Report to Moderator

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1967 2.0 Mk 1 Vitesse in bits since year 2000
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Ive always thought older style seats go well in a car like that:


I believe with a little work you could fit just about anything but the seat belts might be more of a problem.....
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Check into engine numbers and chassis types if you can confirm it really is positive earth. It may be having a slight identity crises as only the very early heralds were that way. Certainly no 13/60 or G reg. I can't think of another reason for it to be that way.

Acclaim - fully working and on the road
13/60 Herald - mx5 powered and other such fun things, legal enough...
Mk1 2000 - it's still alive, just sleeping
Expert 815d - the slug

If in doubt, do up until you hear the crack and then go another 1/4 turn to ensure tightness.
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Moss Car Man
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That's folks for the replies.
I  think it must be +ve earth just because someone built it that way when putting the kit together.
Great link for switching to -ve earth....I'm going to do that tomorrow...fingers crossed!
Those classic bucket seats on eBay are lovely but I'm a bit wiped out from buying the car so will keep my
eyes peeled for some second hand MX5 seats. (I have a '68 Morris Minor Traveller to run as well).

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Awesome link to switch to -ve earth.......did it this pm, I was quite nervous but worked a treat..!
Put new battery leads on so it looks better being correct colours. I have also put new plugs, points, condenser rotor arm (red one, although I don't know why they're supposed to be better) & advance/retard hose........
Lots of rewiring to go now, bought those retro style metal toggle switches to use & other parts arriving & piling up...clutch kit, clutch master cyl. kit, Fram filter & can of oil.
Never bloody ends does it?...The price of falling in love!!!

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