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byakk0
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I'll backtrack here a few years and go from the beginning...

The fellow I bought the car from claimed it was 'paint ready'.
Here it is the day I started tearing it apart back in, 96 I think it was.


Needless to say, I didn't have a clue what a ride I was in for. On top of that, I had never heard of a Triumph before. I saw the price in the want ads and I was sold, sight unseen. Looking back that was probably my first mistake. (the second mistake was not buying the pristine Mk1 I test-drove 2 years later for $1500!) Anyway, I drove in this condition for two years before I decided a rolling restoration was not at all possible. Heavy rust under the bulkhead, behind the dash fascia,  inside and outside of the A-pillars, floors, rockers, sills, heelboard, quarter panels, rear valence, trunk floor--basically the entire lower tub from the top of the doors down. the sills and rockers were so bad I could reach through them from the inside along their full length.
The bonnet was just as bad. Fortunately someone offered to sell me one for $200 as he decided not to do a spit-six conversion and no longer needed the bonnet. (this is the one from the video I posted in the other thread...more on that later)
So, you can see my dilemma--I have since replaced nearly every scrap of metal on the body and bonnet of this car.

Passenger side footwell. You can see the rust all over, and my half-hearted attempt at floor repair. I knew it needed replacing, but I thought this method may buy me more time. Boy was I wrong.


Engine:
Amazingly enough, it still runs. I fire it up from time to time as I have it on a test-cart. It was the only part of the car that actually was in excellent shape, albeit a tad dirty.


Anyway, lets fast-forward a few years (to 2009-ish) and 2 parts cars later. I'd since gathered tools and started gaining expertise and a game-plan on how to proceed. Up to this point all I have done is move the torn apart car from house to house to house (5 moves) and gotten married and had kids. a little bit of part refurbishing happened along the way, such as upper and lower a-arms and coil springs-little things like that that did not require welding or metalwork knowledge as I had zero skill then. I also placed a few orders for new sheetmetal-Rockers, quarter panels (wings?) and floors. I did have a crappy welder, but I was better off with a propane torch and coat-hanger for all it was worth-I've since upgraded.
I also toyed with various methods of rust removal-reverse electrolosis, CLR, vinegar, Evaporust, mechanical (wire brush, grinding, sanding) to name a few. More on that if anyone is interested.

So here we are at the floors, parts I used from the parts car-still in bad shape but at least salvageable and the metal is solid. (It was easier to use the floors from the parts car as I used most of the lower tub. I'll save my new floor pans for another project.)
I removed the crossmembers and replaced with ones I constructed. These were the first major parts I built by hand, and at the time, buying aftermarket may have been easier but I didn't have the $80 per side to fork over, but I learned a lot and they work, nearly hard to discern them from factory. The metal only cost about $10, and I built an 18" bending brake from scrap.


I knew from experience at this point it would look like this underneath.
I stripped it down to the bare metal and treated with por-15.


The new crossmember fitted. This has is now completed on both sides.

That's all for now. Stay tuned for more of my story!

~Hazen


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stevegt6
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if its any consolation, i've been at mine on and off since year 2000 - although mine is nearing 'on-the-road'  

Plenty of knowledge on here....and if we dont know, we'll just make it up or take the pi$$  

Good luck..!


Current:
1973 Triumph GT6 mk3 OD (Still on the road  ....and now with carpet and new seats  )
Defender 110 300TDi (SORN Waiting for re-build) * Alfa Mito (Daily) * Defender 110 Td5

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1976 MK2 Escort 1.3HC * 1977 Spitfire 1500 OD (Inca) * 1980 Cortina MK5 * 1976 Land Rover S3 Airportable * 1977 Land Rover S3 SWB
1979 Mini Clubman 1275GT * 1972 GT6 MK3 OD (French blue) * Austin 1300GT (Biscuit & vinyl roof) * 1980 Spitfire 1500 OD (Pageant)
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byakk0
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It's much further along than this! I'll get to those pics soon. Nearly done with the chassis and then I can wrap the body up.
But on with the bits of the story.
My bending brake-one flaw in my design though, which may be able to fix. It only bends one way!


Finished crossmember. (had a friend with a larger brake finish bending these for me)


Rear-end damage found under bondo. This is an ongoing project, still don't quite have it the way it needs to be.



I bought a small English wheel (wheeling machine?) a few years ago so I could repair this. $40 on ebay, it fits in a bench vise.
This is just a test piece from some galvanized metal I had on hand, just to get the hang of it.




And the new panel in place.



It looks a lot better at this point, but still needs some smoothing and adjusting, but I will get it.

That's it for now...


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rotoflex
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Wow, that went well!


1972 GT6 Mk3 - KF11404UBay Minette, Alabama USA
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byakk0
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on to the passenger side (near-side I think those of you in RHD cars call it   )
This work was performed in late 2012.

Rocker removal. glad the hornets moved out before I found their nest. (There were more nests inside both A-pillars too, but those pics come later)
I lucked out and the upper and lower-Apillars, though rusty, were very solid and saveable.

Cleaned of the rust and prepped with por-15. I removed the por-15 where I would later weld, treating those spots with weld-thru primer.


Sill replacement. You can also see the rear wing and what I have to deal with there, but that too will come later.



Driver's side (off-side?) crossmember



Stay tuned. More rustoration where this came from!


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Sheepy
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Doing some nice work there!

Can you show a picture of your English wheel please, I like the idea of a small vice mounted one, it sounds a good idea.  


Cheers
Shaun

i'm worried that when I die my wife will sell all my car parts for what I told her they were worth!  

67 MK3 spit
42 Chevy cargo truck
Some bikes (not push bikes)
Land Rover series 3 (doing it up to sell)
Belgium (I'm Binglish)
RBRR 2014 'team broom' in the renown!
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rotoflex
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Quoted from byakk0
on to the passenger side (near-side I think those of you in RHD cars call it   )


RichardB finally explained it all:  near-side is the side that's near the curb.

So the near side is the passenger side of a right hand steering car where it is driven on the left side of the road, and the side near the curb would be the passenger side of a left hand steering car where it is driven on the right hand side of the road.  However, if a right hand steering car is driven in a place where they drive on the right hand side of the road, the driver's side would be nearest the curb and so the near side, just as for a left hand steering car driven in a place where they drive on the left hand side of the road would have the driver's side as the nearest side.  It seems easier to think of this way.


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Quoted from rotoflex


RichardB finally explained it all:  near-side is the side that's near the curb.

So the near side is the passenger side of a right hand steering car where it is driven on the left side of the road, and the side near the curb would be the passenger side of a left hand steering car where it is driven on the right hand side of the road.  However, if a right hand steering car is driven in a place where they drive on the right hand side of the road, the driver's side would be nearest the curb and so the near side, just as for a left hand steering car driven in a place where they drive on the left hand side of the road would have the driver's side as the nearest side.  It seems easier to think of this way.


Ah, I see. That makes more sense now. Could just use port and starboard! lol. I'll just stick to the terminology I know for now.  

Shaun, I'll get you some pics of the wheel soon.


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On to the passenger side rear wing. The PO thought he wanted fender flares ad attempted fiberglassing after cutting away the inner and outer arch. This is what was left of his mess after my boy excavated it.





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on we go....

Cutting away the old wing (That's my bro. He has a GT6+ currently also undergoing resto)

Ignore the hood/soft-top bolt plate. As I mentioned earlier, I had to use lots of parts from the spitfire parts car. This piece gets dealt with.


Old inner arch with the cleaned up donor panel.


Seprated the B-post for cleanup.




And this is where the passenger side sits currently. I have been having issues getting the door gaps correct, so while I mull over solutions to the problem I have moved on to other projects.

I'll post the pics of the driver side later on. For now, lets jump to the front valance.

The PO had welded extensions over the ends to match some fender flares in the old bonnet, and the old metal underneath rusted away. I removed the extensions and found this.

The 'new' valence needed some work too, and as you can see it is from a GT6 Mk2 and needs adjusting to fit a Mk1. It was bent to 90 degrees on one end, unfortunately I was too gung-ho to fix it and did not take any before shots.


This is where it was bent, and in order to fix it this bracket had to be removed and a crack welded after it was re-shaped.


Notice the non-GT6 grill mount. This gets dealt with later.

comparing the old and the new. Notice the nose on the old one. It's quite thin and badly misshapen there.

The new is still a bit wavy and bumpy and that bugs me. John Bonnet could probably do something with both of these and make them look new, and maybe by the time I get the car done my metal beating skills will be sufficient to smooth it out better--who knows. As for the hinge cutouts-I should add a piece of metal to each notch to make it look like a Mk1 valance, but I think the bumper and over-riders will cover them enough not to be noticed. I'm not going for concourse here. If I had a tig-welder I may consider it.

Marking it for the cut. I only get one shot at this.


And here's another tool I built. A bodywork slapping spoon. I made this after I last worked on the valance, so maybe it will come in handy when I address it again.




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Excellent work, keep the pics coming  


GT6 Mk3, the Rooster    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8W1XSjFB6g  tune on the radio the first time it broke down, 5 miles after i bought it
http://www.triumph-club-de-fra.....estauration-dune-gt6  
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You're welcome. Here are a few more...

Moving back to the back end. The tail light mounts were --you guessed it-- thick with rust. It was easier and quicker to build new ones than strip the rust and hope I got it all. Both sides were completed.


You can see the new part laying on top of the wing. I clamped it to the old one and sprayed it with paint so the holes locations would transfer easily.






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Really love the thread, keep up the good work and pics.  


1982 TR7 FHC  8-)
1967 GT6 MK1 royal blue, now sold
1969 GT6 Mk2 Loved, but she is in bits about her looks  - Now sold  
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Quoted from byakk0

Could just use port and starboard! lol.


That will make Dirk happy!

That rear arch was a mess, it's amazing what other folk can bodge! Looks lots better now!  


Cheers
Shaun

i'm worried that when I die my wife will sell all my car parts for what I told her they were worth!  

67 MK3 spit
42 Chevy cargo truck
Some bikes (not push bikes)
Land Rover series 3 (doing it up to sell)
Belgium (I'm Binglish)
RBRR 2014 'team broom' in the renown!
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both arches were like that. Wish I had photos of my first bonnet. It had more bondo than metal.


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